Any dealings that involve my grandmother will send my blood pressure sky high. I realize that sounds unkind, but we have a special relationship – we really don’t like each other at all, and are now forced to deal with each other much more than either of us would ever want.
Today I have been reassuring her that yes, someone WILL contact us should she die, and it’s not like she’ll be sitting dead on the couch for a week before someone discovers it (she has someone pop in multiple times a week) and even if that happened (which it won’t) the cat wouldn’t starve because it would eat her. (She actually thought the cat comment was funny. I wasn’t exactly joking. The cat is not dumb.) She has an odd obsession with the administrative details of death. Actual death doesn’t bother her a bit, but the paperwork aspect puts her around the bend. Granted, she is 87, so I understand that death is more of an issue now, but I can’t quite convince her that once she dies, none of this will be her problem anyway, so why worry?
So, the BP has been a bit on the high side so far today. Then I had to go deal with Wachovia Bank – I will be lucky if I don’t stroke out before the night is over.
Last year when I was in Phoenix, I made the suggestion of being a signer on her accounts, as the finances were already frustrating her (legal blindness will do that) and might as well do it then rather than wait. Figured that way whenever I needed to do something for her, I could. (And I have, so it was a good idea.) Now, her accounts are in a trust – of which SHE is the trustee – a POS document that seems to have only caused more grief than it has solved in my opinion, but everyone assures me, “Oh, it’s GREAT!” I remain unconvinced.
Two of these accounts are held with Wells Fargo. (Thankfully they are her main day-to-day accounts.) We walked in, my grandmother said, “I want to make her a signer on my accounts.” They said, “Here’s a pen.” That was that. I think the most challenging part was finding a Sharpie to make the signature line extra dark so she could see it.
For the other two accounts, we headed over to Wachovia, who held true to their former identity of First Union, aka, the FU bank. As it is, they don’t like her that much because she is a high maintenance pain in the ass who doesn’t make them any money. (True.) They don’t much like me because I’ve not stuffed her in a nursing home. While there are days I’d love to do that (at least she’d know someone will call me if she dies) simply being a high maintenance pain in the ass isn’t grounds for checking her into a home. (Were that the case, most of my clients I had on help desk would have been committed.) And frankly, if you’re working at a bank in Sun City, Arizona (one of God’s Waiting Rooms, thank you Del Webb) you simply have to know that there is going to be a percentage of your customers that are cranky elderly people who will do their best to drive you insane.
Well, no can do on being a signer, even with the trustee right in front of them. Must have a Power of Attorney “from the trust”. My grandmother had a meltdown/hissy fit about having to “get an expensive lawyer” and not much else could be done except hustle her out of there before she started using her cane as a weapon. (I regret ever telling her to use the cane as a weapon if anyone gave her a hard time – there will come a day where she knocks me unconscious with it.)
After one midnight call too many from her of “I can’t read the Wachovia checkbook and I can’t tell if it’s been balanced” I broached the idea of going with the PoA (expensive lawyer be damned) so I could just take it over, get the mailing address changed, take the checkbooks (1 interest transaction per month – they cause SO much more grief than her day to day checkbook) and she doesn’t have to deal with it ever again. And I don’t get any calls at midnight when she’s trying in vain to read her own handwriting in the check register. I may have said something about having a lawyer friend that owed me a favor so it wouldn’t cost anything. (In her world anything that costs anything is BAD. I felt it was more important to get the docs done than to have her complaining about the cost and it never happening.) But, she agreed that it wouldn’t be the worst thing in the world.
Cue the angels singing.
So, I get the PoA’s drawn up. One for her as an individual (good for me for getting info on bills and whatnot – I’ve already checked with her various vendors and they all said, “Yep, that will be fine!”) and one “from the trust” which she will sign as trustee.
I am making a special trip to Phoenix to make this happen, for two reasons: First, I don’t know enough people there to make this easily happen remotely. Second, when you’re asking someone to essentially give you the ability to loot all their assets, it’s really best done in person. Because of this, and the issues we’ve had with good ol’ Wachovia, I took the blanks to the local WB branch to make sure they would be honored when signed – no sense in traveling 2000 miles for nothing. It seemed like a very good idea. A smart idea. A proactive idea.
I obviously forgot I was dealing with Wachovia. Now first, let me say that the lady that I talked to at my local branch about it was VERY nice and was as helpful as she could be considering that Wachovia apparently doesn’t think being proactive is a good idea. I asked that they look at the PoA and the way her accounts were titled so I would know that they worked, because if I made a special trip to PHX to have these signed and then discovered that they wouldn’t honor it, I would be curled up in the fetal position in the lobby crying. (Yes, I used those words. It got the point across. The gentleman behind me was laughing a lot – he had obviously gone through this song and dance with an elderly relative at some point. Or, I am simply hilarious.)
Well, first, one of the accounts isn’t even in the trust! Nope, the money market account they convinced her to open last year is in her plain-jane name only. (Because yes, this woman needed yet another check register to keep track of – whoever sold her on that account owes me several rounds at the local bar and an opportunity to smack them around.)
For the other account, she couldn’t tell me for sure if the PoA would be honored or not. The legal department doesn’t review unsigned documents. Nor will they speak directly with customers. (This mystifies me, I would think it would be in their interest to be able to tell someone that a particular document WON’T be sufficient BEFORE someone goes to the trouble of getting it signed, notarized and witnessed. The document is going go have to be reviewed one way or another as it is.) She *thinks* it will work, but we will have to make an in-person trip to her branch after it’s signed to enact it, and then I guess we’ll find out one way or another. (Cue grandma braining someone with a cane if it doesn’t.)
However – she did say that we could just make it a “non-trust” account and I could immediately be made a signer on it should the PoA not be sufficient. WTF? SERIOUSLY??? This option couldn’t be brought forward when we were there last year? There were a few moments before my grandmother freaked out where they could have said, “Well, here’s another option…”
So, great, I get to go to PHX, AND make a trip to the bank I hate to boot, AND not throw a stapler at anyone while there while ALSO keeping my grandmother from assaulting anyone. Which also begs the question – had my grandmother done the PoA’s 5 years ago and said, “Just put them away for when all hell breaks loose” and she broke a hip and I had to invoke it – would Wachovia turn me away because I couldn’t present my grandmother at the branch? Would I have to get her on videoconference from the hospital? Isn’t the whole point of a Power of Attorney that you DON’T have to have the principal front and center with you giving you permission to do what needs to be done? Perhaps I missed that day in my business law class.
I have a very bad feeling my return flight will have to be rescheduled as I either have documents re-written or I’m bailing my grandmother out of jail for assault with a mobility aid.